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PostSubject: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:25 am

So I've noticed a lot of mysterious things in this game that it seems like you can't do anything with. Items that seem to have no use, doors and chests you can't seem to unlock or open or reach, or you can't seem to do anything to reach a certain area, help a certain person pleading for help, etc. DZK/Indinera is pretty infamous for including lots of teasers in his games, so it's quite possible that at least some of these things were never meant to be accomplished or used.

If anyone knows what to do with these things, to reach these areas, to help these people, etc., please let me know. These things bug me greatly! I will edit the walkthrough for it and give you full credit for it! Thanks! And if you find any other apparent teasers, post them here, and I will check them out!

With that said, here is a list of things I noticed that I can't seem to figure out:


--- In Metrolia ---

- Adon in Metrolia doesn't seem to be able to be helped by anyone or anything?

- Grimbor says he's searching for his axe, but the one he's looking for isn't obtainable? He doesn't even say what kind it is.

- The red chests in the houses of Robbie and Sylvia, and Lucia Evania the Translator don't ever seem to open.

- Same with the orange chest in Warzel's house

- The 2 Soldiers' Headquarters, Marquis de Rubalski's Castle, Landshire Manor, the repaired church on the east side of the square, the large cathedral west of the square, Xeltour Castle, and a few houses don't seem to ever be accessible

- The Museum of Arts and Nature never opens up, despite the game building up for its opening the entire time?

- A completely empty house in the northeast section of Metrolia, south of Cave of 100 Ingredients?

- House on the right side of the square has a locked door, and a woman saying her husband will soon return, but he never does?

- Kid in the northeast house says his minotaur buddy will soon return, but he never does?

- Several houses and shops, as well as the Fighter's Guild, the Mage Guild, the Silver Eagle Inn, and the Castle have several locked doors with no apparent ways of opening them

- Long path down the hole in the Silver Eagle Inn takes you to a dead-end with a hidden chest with 3 Fruits of the Mist, a frog creature, a reanimated skeleton, and a locked door, but nothing else to do but open the chest?

- Locked gate at the front of Metrolia? It might lead to the same area as the secret gate discovered with Sylvenia...

- The Reign Key?! What does this thing unlock?!

- The Chesterwark Seal? Any use?


--- In other parts of the world ---


- Missing entry in "Noticeable Victories" section of Dreambook? It's the one in the top-right corner, above Mazurine and to the right of Yen Karis. I've never encountered it before. Anyone know where it might be? Could it be a teaser? Or could it have possibly been for a boss that I have fought, but some kind of glitch prevented it from appearing in the book?


- The Dark Order Letter? It says it's a letter that tells of their plots, but I can't find anyone that wants to read it.

- Before doing the wolf/peasants quest at the end of the game, there is a strange kid deep in the Old Metrolian Castle in the woods, but he just says "I really like this place" or something like that, and noone seems to interact with him.

- "Old Vrombaar's Tomb" in Mosquito Swamp can't be interacted with further?

- Several unreadable signs in Mosquito Swamp, Unknown Cavern, and possibly elsewhere?

- 2 blue chests in the walls of the Modern Sciences Institute's entry hall, and 2 black chests in the walls of the Angel Town's Castle, in the hallway right before the throne room

- Three locked chests in the Modern Sciences Shop

- Several locked doors in Modern Sciences Institute

- No reward for the IQ Test?

- No reward for bringing Blanchard back to Ryan?

- Shrine of Rulza-Vana's only use is one of the blank books?

- Unopenable chest in Giants' Fortress, in Endemon Parambo's room; just has an endless trap?

- Unopenable golden chest in Ancient Pyramid; just has an endless trap and is locked?

- Unreachable chest in middle-west room of Crypt of 7000 Skulls?

- Unreachable chest and cave entrance in the Aglae-Terra Mountain Path?

- Unreachable chest, caves, and Dragon Mushrooms in Arazom's Secret Glade?

- Unreachable cave entrance in the Kuko's Marsh?

- Unopenable chest in the Ore Lab, in one of the cells with the Slaughterers?

- Unreachable pond-teleport and chest in the Pit of Fire?

- In Long Cape "Island", there is a mysterious skeleton pirate, and one of the three chests here says "This chest contains a lot of old, worn sheets of paper.", but there is nothing to do with either of them?

- There are locked... things in Lord Zarmon's Crypt with no way to open them?

- A Nenula in Amabranda asks for a "Frozen Jade", has anyone ever found one?

- Locked chest in the Witch's Shack

- Apparently no way to unlock the doors in the Feared Kjeldar Castle, so you must complete the quest by clearing Lucida Tower first?

- "Fubinha" in the Centaur Fortress asks for your help, but noone can interract with her? Clearing out the fortress does nothing, either.

- Nothing can be done at the Love Temple, or at the house of "Artorius, King of Betruska"?

- Several locked cells in Giants' Fortress Sewers?

- Several locked cells in the Metal Guard, and Jeff can't be saved?

- There is a secret room in the Underking's Villa, but it only has a woman who doesn't ever want to leave?

- The dark knight in Ker-Mist-Dun challenges you. Random asks him what he will give if he wins. He says to wait and come back later, and he'll try to get something to give you as a prize, but he never finds anything?

- The Christine that you rescued from the Feared Kjeldar Castle says she'll try to find an item for you, but never does?

- Bart in Lantin wants to join you, and he gets more XP and levels up the more you look at him in the menu, but Random always says he's too weak no matter what.

That's about all I can remember for now. That's quite a bit of mysterious stuff! If you know of any more mysterious things that seem to be teasers, feel free to post them! And any help with these is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:51 am

Great job man! I can agree with nearly everything you wrote with slight additions:

- there is also a wounded man who asks you to kill him in the centaur fortress, does killing\sparing him do something?

- Borgen, the champion of the team fights at the colosseum hangs around the southern checkpoint during 3-dazer.does winning enough fights to surpass him then talking to him has a reward?

In addition, I think you can marry Random and Sarah in the Love Temple at some point and that the witch's locked chest has something to do with reviving Jessie but these two are based on my foggy past experiences aka not entirely confirmed
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:17 pm

Yeah, I tried the part with Borgon with an overpowered party, and it turns out, he still just says the exact same thing, and noone seems to interact with him.

If you bring Sarah with Random to the Love Temple and talk to the priest there, Sarah asks Random to marry her, but I'm pretty sure he always says that they don't have time.

I also tried the "Revive Jezzie" sidequest, and it seems that the chest just never opens no matter what.

That wounded man in Centaur Fortress is still a mystery to me too, though. Thanks, I forgot about that one!

Also, I noticed that the further you get into the game, the more and more incomplete it all seems, as if Indinera just got tired of working on such a huge game and just rushed a lot of things towards the end so he could move on to other things. There are a lot of empty areas (way too many to list!) where it seems like you should at least be able to find an item or something, but it seems like he either forgot to put something there, or just gave up on it, or went out of his way to make you explore a dead end!

Just one instance of that is in the Kriir Gymnasium. There is a long ladder there that just leads to a completely empty balcony!
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:57 am

- A completely empty house in the northeast section of Metrolia, south of Cave of 100 Ingredients?

If you're talking about house 42(http://grogor2.tripod.com/maps.html) there is a woman that turns into a demon if you go early enough. I think she ends up if one of the Victory Pages in Dream Book.

- Shrine of Rulza-Vana's only use is one of the blank books?

If you got with Luba you can read the book that even Luci couldn't read. You are given a choice to kneel down in submission(if I remember correctly) or not. If you kneel nothing happens if you don't you get attacked by 3 of those creatures that you random encounter in there(don't remember the name). Also it could be used to level up random's slayers thou there are places that are way better since they give other chars slayer points.

- In Long Cape "Island", there is a mysterious skeleton pirate, and one of the three chests here says "This chest contains a lot of old, worn sheets of paper.", but there is nothing to do with either of them?

I think those gave you a book to learn a spell but which one I don't remember.


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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:08 am

I would also like yo ask you a question about such a place. The Elf that appears in Bazzizka Tower for me is kinda bugged. If I go in without sarah I get a dialog askign for her, but when I go out put her in my party, the elf isn't there. Is she the one that gives you a quest for the In Go Fileha rapier? If to then the bug is because I already got it from the Secret Place. If not anyone know of any way to go around this?
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:09 pm

I usually just go with Sarah and Nash to get that weapon and ignore the elf in Bazizka tower.

From what I remember from the old forums the elf just brings you to the same location for a one time chance at getting the sword, though I may be wrong
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:21 pm

neno_ned wrote:
- A completely empty house in the northeast section of Metrolia, south of Cave of 100 Ingredients?

If you're talking about house 42(http://grogor2.tripod.com/maps.htm) there is a woman that turns into a demon if you go early enough. I think she ends up if one of the Victory Pages in Dream Book.

No, I meant the one right beneath the Cave of 100 Ingredients. I just checked the map, and it's house 38, which is labeled as "Macenbo's Home", but I've never seen anyone there! Does anyone know when this "Macenbo" appears?


neno_ned wrote:
- Shrine of Rulza-Vana's only use is one of the blank books?

If you got with Luba you can read the book that even Luci couldn't read. You are given a choice to kneel down in submission(if I remember correctly) or not. If you kneel nothing happens if you don't you get attacked by 3 of those creatures that you random encounter in there(don't remember the name). Also it could be used to level up random's slayers thou there are places that are way better since they give other chars slayer points.


Yeah, I knew about the fight with the Zryvis, but I don't really consider that a "use", more like a "trap", much like the golden coin/bomb there.

neno_ned wrote:
- In Long Cape "Island", there is a mysterious skeleton pirate, and one of the three chests here says "This chest contains a lot of old, worn sheets of paper.", but there is nothing to do with either of them?

I think those gave you a book to learn a spell but which one I don't remember.

Yeah, one of the chests gives you a spellbook, but the middle one just says it has a bunch of worn sheets of paper, but you don't seem to get anything out of it.
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:37 am

luthius wrote:
neno_ned wrote:
- A completely empty house in the northeast section of Metrolia, south of Cave of 100 Ingredients?

If you're talking about house 42(http://grogor2.tripod.com/maps.htm) there is a woman that turns into a demon if you go early enough. I think she ends up if one of the Victory Pages in Dream Book.

No, I meant the one right beneath the Cave of 100 Ingredients. I just checked the map, and it's house 38, which is labeled as "Macenbo's Home", but I've never seen anyone there! Does anyone know when this "Macenbo" appears?


Day 14 before Lucida and he still isn't here

- The Dark Order Letter? It says it's a letter that tells of their plots, but I can't find anyone that wants to read it.

Isn't that the letter you get in the Lansdowne Laynefeeld Manor when you kill the Deamon that was the Baron at the bottom floor? You immediately read it and uncover their plans, which continues the main quest line
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:09 am

The letter that I'm talking about is gotten in the Dark Order Shrine after defeating Nankcho Nanhga. It is found on the desk, along with the key to the quarters.
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:04 am

luthius wrote:
The letter that I'm talking about is gotten in the Dark Order Shrine after defeating Nankcho Nanhga. It is found on the desk, along with the key to the quarters.

yeah I remember that one, haven't found a use either.

I'm thinking Indinera was planing a lot more content in this game but didn't finish half or more of it.
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:30 pm

There is a One-sided chicken in Lantin any idea if its useful for anything tried with my whole party. Which doesn't include Lisa so far
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:38 pm

Oh yeah, I completely forgot about the one-sided chicken! I checked it with all of the party members before, nothing special. I guess it was just a glitch that Indinera decided to leave in as a joke or something.
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:20 pm

great finds! there are doors at the castle you can't open too! and i remember the door at the gate.you can go to the gate the first day with sylavania and it's a door which opens later. and in there was another door if i remenber corectly.

and i remember a key from lp 1 ruthgarden key or something was its name and never use it.i thought maybe it was for lp2 or lp3 but it wasn't in the inventories.never found use for it.
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:01 pm

in metal guard area you can drink from the ponds and they restore your HP/MP full!!
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Wed May 11, 2016 6:45 am

There's a giant door in the Giants' Fortress we never got to see open.
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Wed May 11, 2016 7:36 am

Oh yeah! The one near the entrance, right? I THINK it's supposed to just lead to the big middle part of the south side of the grand hall with those 60+ giants, considering that the two hallways sort of go around it.
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PostSubject: Re: List of possible teaser items, chests, doors, etc.?    Wed May 11, 2016 6:27 pm

Anyone found any other use for WMap 21 except the gold in there?
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